A whole new level of garbage: A Court of Wings and Ruin Review

Synopsis: Looming war threatens all Feyre holds dear in the third volume of the #1 New York Times bestselling A Court of Thorns and Roses series.

Feyre has returned to the Spring Court, determined to gather information on Tamlin’s manoeuvrings and the invading king threatening to bring Prythian to its knees. But to do so she must play a deadly game of deceit – and one slip may spell doom not only for Feyre, but for her world as well.

As war bears down upon them all, Feyre must decide who to trust amongst the dazzling and lethal High Lords – and hunt for allies in unexpected places.

In this thrilling third book in the #1 New York Times bestselling series from Sarah J. Maas, the earth will be painted red as mighty armies grapple for power over the one thing that could destroy them all.

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Review: 1/5


That’s the number of times that the word “mate,” in any of its hellish forms, is used in this book.





That statistic alone should be enough to justify this one star rating. If you feel satisfied enough to just remove yourself from this review, run with that feeling. Because I have, like. Seven pages of sh*t to complain about.

That’s if I’m efficient.

And I’ve never been an efficient reviewer. Once. In my life. I counted two hundred (and two) uses of a word over seven hundred pages. That shouldn’t scream “rational and in control of her passionate fury” to you.

So buckle up, buttercup. We’ve got some categories to run through.

DISCLAIMER : This review is teeming with spoilers. It is also X-rated, due to the strength of my anger and the copious sex scenes in the source material.

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Rhys makes me cringe harder than Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’ Diary. (At least that movie has both Colin Firth and Hugh Grant to distract me from Renee viciously critiquing her own body and, like, spilling coffee all over herself or whatever.) He is capable of two actions, like a mildly impressive Ken doll: 1) sex person and 2) valiant hero trying to kill himself in the name of his friends constantly. Either he is full on f*cking Feyre (sick alliteration, Emma) or he must be actively prevented from jumping in front of poisoned weapons with the half-hearted motivation of Heroism To Save My Family (even if it’s not at all clear why doing this would save them, because whatever none of the plans in this book make a lick of sense anyway).

Because, as if this book weren’t fun enough, it rivals the Fast and the Furious franchise for use of the my-real-family-is-the-one-I-made-not-the-one-I-was-born-with cliché.

Like Rhys, Feyre also manages to find time in her packed schedule of sex scenes and repetitive dialogue to be incredibly, incontrovertibly dumb. For example, when she traps Ianthe and ties her up or whatever, she spends an unbelievable amount of time indulging an evil-villain-revenge rant. Just enough time for her to be CAUGHT BY THE DAEMATI (a Cassandra Clare-esque douchey term that pretty much means “species of bad guy,” to the best of my recollection). So much of this book was me silently screaming.

Speaking of the aforementioned schedule, it’s no wonder that that thing Feyre used to do called “painting” is dropped like a hot potato. She never does it, but it’s mentioned a handful of times in the beginning of the book. And then forgotten. And then, suddenly, almost at the merciful end of this suffering: “The movement so perfect that I knew I’d one day paint it.” We’re still pretending that Feyre paints? Between the same diverse selection of identical sex scenes, identical training scenes, identical war discussion scenes, I don’t think she has time for something so banal as a singular interest or hobby. Idk if we’ll have time; I think she’ll have to get to third base with Rhys in a perfumed bath later.

At least Feyre is brave and strong, though. Which is why she’s “too tired” to do anything after a loooong day of watching other people fight in a battle, followed by Mor winnowing her home. So courageous. How does she do it.

Plus, she’s a brilliant friend. Which is why, when Morrigan confronts her for lying, leaving, making her and everyone else fear she has died and also making Mor responsible for it, Feyre’s response is “OH YA??? WELL YOU HAVE A CRUSH ON AZRIEL.”

Truly a depiction of a powerful woman for the ages.

And I don’t get Lucien’s appeal. Do we like him out of the same reason we like Draco? (I’m saying “we” as if I like either of those characters.) Is it an omg-he’s-just-trying-to-do-right-he-didn’t-know-any-better type situation? Because Draco is a child trying to impress a father who doesn’t love him and I still don’t totally buy that. I’m still not a Draco fan. And Tamlin is not Lucien’s daddy, although…maybe a more interesting book if he were.

Cassian and Azriel are both flat and boring. Amren is characterized so inconsistently that it’s impossible for me to know whether I like her or not. (I’m going to say “not” – seems like a safer bet.) Nesta is almost cool, but the whole I Am Mean And Hard And Damaged thing goes too far. And Elain just floats around and lets things happen to her.

Morrigan, never all that interesting, now just represents the worst bisexuality rep I’ve ever read.

It’s never a good sign when you’re praying for characters to die in battle just so you can catch a f*cking break.

But guess what. None of them do.

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I truly believe that whatever team of sad sacks was assigned to copyedit this book was physically unable to attentively read it. And I cannot blame them. But it does allow for some hilarious mistakes to make it through these dull, dull pages.

Example: “She did not avert her eyes from the Morrigan.” That pesky “the” makes her seem like a pro wrestler, or someone with a fun nickname, rather than the personification of the worst bi rep ever to grace young adult pages. But we’ll get to that.

There are so many ellipses and dashes and italicizations and…other – ways: of breaking up the TEXT that it actually gave me motion sickness. On top of everything else this book has made me suffer through.

Maybe if a copyeditor had found the strength to make it through this book, they could have stopped the way SJM insists on using the term “Hybern.” IT MEANS SO MANY THINGS. “Hybern” is used as the nomer of the evil king, the word for his people, the name of his kingdom, and the title of the land it’s situated on. That is just…basic bad worldbuilding, no?

Also, a monster creature thing described as having no eyelids narrows its eyes. This inspired a fifteen minute long discussion with my roommates on whether eyes can narrow without eyelids. We came to a unanimous consensus: no, they cannot.

Also, as Val pointed out in her amazing review of this book, the words “vulgar gesture” are used over. And over. And over again. WHAT DO THESE USES MEAN. WHY DO THEY CONSTANTLY INSPIRE LAUGHTER IN WHATEVER GLORIFIED PROP CHARACTER WHO HAPPENS TO BE NEARBY. IS THIS TACTIC SUPPOSED TO REPLACE ACTUAL JOKES OR BANTER? Because it doesn’t. It just makes me angry, and also confused, which makes me even angrier.

And who thought that was even possible.

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Except then, y’know, Rhys and Feyre and the Gang are also so hip and cool and up to date that this book uses the word “fuckable,” a word so slang-y that my laptop recognizes it as a typo for “suckable” or “faceable,” whatever the hell those words are.

Otherwise, the only other remarkable attempt at making this any different from the way humans speak in 2017: the use of the word “male.”

Women are sometimes called “females” in this, but are also called women and girls and whatnot. Men, on the other hand, are absolutely only called males. There’s an amazing moment when SJM refers to Rhys as a man, and then instantly, like, corrects herself. So it reads on the page as “man – male -”

It makes no sense. I love it.

It’s truly the little things.

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As the war we’ve waited for finally arrives, and so does the time for motivational speeches and tragic goodbyes and other things that fail to make me feel something, SJM loses it entirely.

Nearly every line of dialogue in this section is just a cliché, and so I will copy and paste them here, for your perusal and accompanying amusement.

“Leave this world…a better place than how you found it.”

“One life may change the world.”

“I believe everything happens for a reason.”

“It is the family you make, not the one you are born into, that matters.”

“Light can be found even in the darkest of hells.”

“The great joy and honor of my life has been to know you.”

“I wasn’t sure if in the entire history of Illyria, there had ever been such a discussion.”

So bad. And, therefore, so good.

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The moments when this may or may not be attempting to instill some sort of entertainment or amusement in its reader do not work at all. Luckily, we have something much better: Really dumb stuff. It is much more fun (and nourishing to the very soul, like a bowl of chicken soup – so pretty much the series of books “Chicken Soup for the Soul”) to laugh at something unintentional and dumb than it is to laugh at a cheap joke. This is why the show America’s Funniest Home Videos has been on for twenty-eight seasons, and like a thousand interchangeable bad sitcoms are canceled every year.

For example, this passage. Feyre and Rhysand are apart, blah blah blah, it’s the tragedy of the century (or millennium, since these boring ass people live for infinity, because there is no justice in this world). Unsurprisingly, they use their mind control powers for a saintly motivation: sexting. Which is already so hilarious. But it gets even better, because:

“I sent back an image of me sticking out my tongue at him.

My clothes were back on when his answer arrived.

Like mine, it was wordless, a mere image. Like mine, Rhysand’s tongue was out.

But it was occupied with doing something else.”

I choose to interpret this statement the same way a middle schooler interprets the existence of performer Marilyn Manson based on a shady rumor he once heard about a surgery to remove three ribs. I believe that this is incontrovertible evidence that Rhysand can suck his own d*ck. WHAT ELSE COULD HE POSSIBLY BE DOING. WHAT COULD IT POSSIBLY BE OCCUPIED WITH. SJM I JUST WANNA TALK.

But just as often as I was making myself laugh by making Rhys my YA fantasy version of Marilyn Manson, I was being equally amused by seemingly innocuous lines. Like when Eris, scary villain/abuser extraordinaire, was bidding The Night Gang adieu and said, “See you at the meeting in twelve days.” I MEAN. WHAT. WHO SPEAKS LIKE THAT. Even dialogue is just an opportunity to force an info dump. You guys, seriously: this book is so poorly written.

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Sometimes, or most of the time depending on how you look at it, I do not want to laugh at the dumb things. Sometimes I am incapable of it, because this book is an ungodly length and so much of it is long-term stupidity.

Chapter 45, for example. Or, as I like to call it, “That Meeting in Twelve Days Finally Happens.” Yes, this book is so boring that we are expected to anticipate an actual, literal meeting. Sure, it’s a meeting between high lords to talk about war, but it’s still a sit-down political discussion. And also it’s just the same endless repetitive cycle of insult dialogue feat. fun moments of The Night Gang being the least convincing people on the entirety of the Earth.

There’s an especially great moment in that adrenaline-inducing conference. For the 8,000 pages leading up to it, Rhys is all, “Ok, Feyre. Listen up. Number one thing – just don’t show your powers, k? Long story short the Powerful Men are going to get pissy and then…well y’know these negotiations are the most important thing to happen in hundreds of years, which I should know because I’ve been alive for that long, even though you’re, what, fresh outta adolescence? Anyway just the only thing you should do is not show your powers.” To which Feyre’s response is, “Got it. *shows powers instantly*”

YES. Feyre shows her powers at the meeting!! So quickly!!! She doesn’t even try all that hard, and, as promised, it almost derails the nonstop excitement of this much-anticipated civilized forum! Almost. Except then everything works out, as it always does, by Feyre saying something totally normal, 6/10 at best, and everyone being like “wow omg…who is this girl…she is so smart and brave and honest and we respect her so much” so that Rhys can be like “that’s my mate lol.”

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The only way to make the experience of reading a deeply unpleasant, extremely long book worse is to publish that book with goddamn tissue paper pages. This was like reading the Bible but without the action. And with a whole lot more smut.

I’m tucking this quote in this section too, because I don’t know if I’m being persnickety, but at one point, it’s said that “Only a madman would wield the might of his army just to get revenge on three women.” And my question is, why use the word “women”? Why not “people”? Is it more insane if it’s women? Why is that? TELL ME WHY. REALLY I JUST WANNA TALK.

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This book is just…so boring.

There are countless info dumps, which, I mean. There’s no excuse for that in a third book. This was going to be the last book in the series, when there was still hope in the world and I prayed that somehow SJM actually was writing these books for some sort of artistic fulfillment rather than money. How, I ask you, would there still be so much sh*tty worldbuilding in the last book in a series?

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SJM has been getting a lot of sh*t lately for her white/straight/cis narratives. So it’s no surprise that she would try to get those pesky activists off her back this time. Unfortunately, she does a remarkably bad job.

This book is all straight people except for LGBT+ relationships based on sex alone, or in an unequal relationship wherein one person has authority over another. (Examples: a high lord whose bisexuality extends purely to the fact that he’s into threesomes; a military captain dating his high lord/commander/boss.)

Plus, there’s bisexual rep so terrible it took me hours to make it through a handful of pages. But that gets a category of its own.

I also shouldn’t be surprised at the redemption of abusers in this book. Because Tamlin, in ACOTAR, was just a Nice Guy. Fine. But the fangirls loved a certain bad boy guest star with purple eyes. So, instead of creating a love triangle or transitioning between love interests like a normal person, SJM made him into an actual abuser. A villain.

That’s also fine. But you can’t just redeem him like you could redeem the unloved side of a love triangle. Because you made him into a genuinely bad person.

Unfortunately, SJM must have missed that memo. She must have missed it three times, actually, because Eris also gets redemption (and a throne!). As does his enabler brother, Lucien. Wonderful. Abuse apologists for the win.

But this book is totally, definitely feminist, right??? I mean, female protagonist! War plotline! It must be, by default! So when Cassian says“I told you that the moment we started letting females into our group, they’d be nothing but trouble”, and woke king Rhys responds, “You actually said you needed a reprieve from staring at our ugly faces, and that some ladieswould add some much needed prettiness for you to look at all day.” it’s totally fine!

So it’s an utter shock that this narrative also lives nearly entirely within the bounds of gender roles. Reading about men (Rhys, Cassian, Azriel, all the high lords) fighting in battle while the women (Feyre, Mor, Elain, Nesta, Cresseida) watch and tend to the wounded later is so refreshing. Doesn’t make me want to blow my brains out at all.

And no, Mor being assigned to babysit Feyre later on, only heading into battle because Feyre tricks her into fighting so she can sneak away, does not make it better, thanks.

This is definitely, certainly the feminist YA fantasy you’ve been waiting for, folks.

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But I haven’t mentioned the most unforgivable thing yet. The thing that made this book my first SJM one-star, after giving every other book I’ve read by her two stars. The thing that actually made me feel real hatred and fury and, worst of all, sadness.

Truly, the worst bisexual representation I have ever read comes in the final chapters of this book. I’ve read a lot of bad bisexual rep. And it’s endlessly upsetting. But none of it felt quite like this.

Apparently, Sarah J. Maas decided in the third book that she wanted to stop getting sh*t for her heteronormativity. So she decided to take a character who had been established as straight, and make her bi.

So she took this character, Morrigan. She makes Morrigan cry. She writes Morrigan’s impassioned speech to Feyre. This is Morrigan’s coming out, for the first time. Morrigan says that she prefers women. To the point that she is only capable of feeling romantic love for a women.

But occasionally, she will force herself to sleep with a man. In order “to keep people from looking too closely.” Instead of telling the man who has been in love with her for centuries that she doesn’t love him back, won’t ever love him back, she forces herself to sleep with men when he’ll know that she’s done it, so that she still seems straight but he’ll know she doesn’t love him.

And the author dubs it bisexuality.

I hate that she felt entitled to use this underrepresented, misunderstood sexuality as a playing piece in her own quest to be well-liked. I hate that the hundreds of thousands of people who read this book have been given this depiction of bisexuality. And I hate that Sarah J. Maas will keep writing wildly successful books. Books in this very series, depicting this character in this way and calling it “bisexuality.”

It’s unfair. It’s awful. And I am never, never, never going to forget that it happened.

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Bottom line: I didn’t expect to like this book. But I also didn’t expect it would become one of my least favorite books I’ve ever read.

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Have you read A Court of Wings and Ruin? What did you think?

Sarah J. Maas: Fan, or not a fan?


133 thoughts on “A whole new level of garbage: A Court of Wings and Ruin Review

  1. Natalia says:

    So this is hilarious…allow me to tell you a story.
    I read this book just a few months ago and gave it 5 stars. Decided to go on a reread binge of this series(except ACOTAR because it made me uncomfy for reasons), I liked ACOMAF just as much as the first time around…but for some reason I can’t seem to get through this one?? I *finally* got to the big meeting, but after the pretentious little High Lords started talking about Feyre as if she weren’t RIGHT THERE, the moment Rhys was so damn proud of Feyre for just STATING THE OBVIOUS ABOUT TAMLIN’S BETRAYAL TO HELION, YA KNOW, THE WAY ANY NORMAL PERSON WOULD DO, I wrinkled my nose and had to stop. Strange, I thought this was a 5 star book for me. I pop on over to Goodreads for some second opinions, see your review. And now it makes sense.
    While it feels incredibly blasphemous to say this as a long-term SJM fan, I am pulling a complete 180 on this book. Perhaps I should have known better after the disaster that was reading ACOTAR, back all those years ago when I was fourteen and thought it was YA(because that’s where it’s placed in B&N :DDD thanks I hate it!) and was NOT ready for smut of any kind to enter my mindspace. Your review pointed out everything that was bothering me that I couldn’t see for myself, and then some. And the worst part, by far, is the characters. I already knew I hated Nesta. I myself am the oldest of three, and I could never and will never forgive her for failing Feyre so completely, and whatever development she has is too little too late. Her piss-poor attitude is borderline nonsensical as well. And I knew I hated Elain too although that’s a bit more complicated to explain. And I knew Rhys was too perfect. But…the others?! I feel betrayed by myself and by them for existing differently than I remember.
    Anyway, thank you for putting into words what I was too deep in my infatuation with SJM to see. Sigh. It’s so much easier to just tell yourself everything an author puts out is amazing because you want that author to remain shiny and godly in your brain. Unfortunately, the reality almost never lines up with that.


    • Sue D'Nym says:

      THANK YOU!!! I hate these books so much. I’m reading them to humor a friend and my mind is boggled that so many people love this fanfiction twaddle. I’m appalled it’s peddled to teens and YA because it’s clearly erotica. Just total smut.
      It’s the most tedious, tiresome, repetitive garbage. Let’s give an honorable mention in the overused category to “the bond.” Or the syrupy, flowery, over-described EVERYTHING. I found myself skipping paragraphs because I honestly don’t care anymore about every single detail of someone’s outfit or hands or eyes or hair. She doesn’t just describe them once, she rehashes it over and over when characters are brought up.
      And I HATE Feyre. She’s the epitome of obnoxious female lead. Moody, impetuous, snotty, a brat. But she’s “SOOOOO GOOD” … See how she loves her sisters even though they don’t deserve it. See how she loves HER PEOPLE unlike their masters before them. See how noble and brave and ABSOLUTELY BORING…. bleh.
      I hate her “vulgar gestures”. Her obsession with HER MATE.
      I hate the 2017 swearing… Excuse me SJM… Just when the hell is this story set, anyway? Someone needs to pick up JRRM and learn a thing or two about old-time swearing. Because this series is just a mangled up, hodgepodge of teenage nonsense.

      Oh, if you want extra torture… Listen to their Graphic Audio versions on audible. It takes your rage and disgust up to 1000%.

      I think the thing that bothers me the just is just how popular these books are. I mean THAT MANY PEOPLE THINK THIS IS GOOD?!?? Jeeeze we really are doomed. Our world is overrun by total morons.


      • Sue D'Nym says:

        Oh… What kind of male warrior sticks his tongue out at another man? I mean… What in the actual crap is that?! I HATE this series!


    • Person Booker says:

      YOU NEED TO SHUT UP. I CANNOT BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF HATE YOU JUST SPEWED INTO THE INTERNET. I hope you do not ignore this comment. I hope you read this and it affects you forever. I hope you know that I’m only a minor, but you made me mad to the point of disbelief. You are disgusting and there’s no way you weren’t a VSCO girl lol. I am a genuinely good person; ask my friends. But I will not allow this amount of pure hatred to spill everywhere. I am forever grateful that I do not know you. You are a disgrace to the bookworm community, but I doubt the community could even accept you anyway.
      And by the way, your text sizing sucks. Get some tech skills. I would cuss you out but your tiny squirrel brain couldn’t handle that.


    • Madeline says:

      I feel like Feyre should have been the oldest sister, it would have made more sense, and it wouldn’t have changed the storyline. The oldest sibling is the ‘protector’ and the most responsible – which is Feyre. Nesta should have been the middle child and Elain the youngest, which would aligned more with their personalities. I also dislike the way they both babied Elain, however if she had been a lot younger then it would have worked. As the youngest is usually treated this way. I think the switch would have greatly improved the story.


  2. Anonymous says:

    Having been given this to read by a school librarian, when I was 11, i can wholeheartedly agree with this review of it. It really, really shouldn’t be on the Whitcoulls YAF list, because of how adult some scenes are. I regret having read it so much.

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  3. Acotar Fangirl says:

    Did you forget Amren when mentioning the women being stuck in gender roles? The one woman army? The girl who drinks blood and most certainly doesn’t stay home and knit while the boys save the day? (Okay, technically she does stay home and decipher a book and do a few puzzles, but it’s because she strong enough to protect Velaris on her own…) She’s only the most powerful character…

    Plus, Feyre also saves Velaris with her water wolves, single handedly took down the Attor, and used her brain to seek out the Suriel (sp?)

    Personally, I love the books. There were maybe a couple of points you made that I agree with. (The obscene hand gesture thing made me a little crazy.)

    For the most part however, I completely disagree with you! 😊

    And, in my humble opinion, there is nothing wrong with how much she used the term “mate.” It was a huge deal in the world she created. What should she have done? Used a different term every so often to avoid being repetitive? “Mate” is very specific and is important among the Fae. It’s not like she used the word “beautiful” over 200 times, or something that could easily be swapped.

    Oh, and as for Rhys sticking out his tongue and it being occupied with something else, I interpreted it to mean he was doing the, “I want to eat you out” gesture.

    Like where you shape your fingers as a V next to your mouth and tongue in between your fingers. Very classy. ✌️ 👅


    As for the bisexuality issues, I can see your points. My biggest problem was how it felt “forced.”

    Anyway, I can’t wait for her next one to come out!!! 🤤

    I hope she says “mate” 300 times!!!!!!



  4. amna says:

    omfg you never miss hoe. I had to comment on this one, and ajwjwjwj you were so right. Sometimes o just want to throw the book out of the window.


  5. Magda says:

    I am currently reading the book and stopped in the middle of the meeting to Google if anyone else thought this book was hella-dumb. Thank you for confirming my suspensions and making me laugh in the process. I even commented to my “mate” about the pages being Bible paper thin. Lol.


  6. Ada Marie Nicoletti says:

    I am even “meaner” than you. I just finished the serie forcing myself to do that in order o-o complete it, but it was just awful to me, one of the worst book I’ve ever read. Despite the fact that I loved the 2nd, simply one of my favorites of all time.
    The plot is incredibly stupid and too war-tactic centered. As you said, countless war discussion ALL THE SAME!
    Half book wa spent on how to find a way to close the portals but guess what: IT FALLS. So screw everything we have done before, just useless.
    And what about HOW CONVENIENTLY all the help in the world come when they are about to fall in the last fight?
    Stryga and the other monsters at the last moment (don’t make me mention the mirror fact which she talks about for hundreds of pages but resolves in a couple of paragraphs *cringe*), Myriam’s army, even the humans and her father (how comes to know everything? Boh)! Are you serious?
    Amren came back – as a high Fae what – was simply stupid and even Rhys death was so idiotic and unbelievable that nobody actually believed for a second that he was about to stay dead.
    Of course, how can that all live when Stryga and her brother now are free to go because of the deals? Let them both die on the fields because it is convenient this way. The other one is kind, he can stay, he just wants a window so it’s fine👿👿👿
    I would have so many other meh things but I will refrain.. I think it is enough and I completely agree with you ❤️ I think I won’t read another of her books, like ever. The disappointment was just too big.


  7. A says:

    I disagree with you. Your a hateful person and if you only look for negatives in a book, or anything, you’ll never be happy. Don’t ruin these perfect book series with you bullshit. Keep somethings to yourself. And the use of the word, “mate” could’ve been used more. Mate is different to Fae than humans, because it is a deeper connection and a stronger love. Again, if you had a problem with it, why didn’t you stop reading it? In my opinion, I loved this book more than anything, and Draco is a great character, and Azriel and Cassian are amazing and not flat, they have their own personalities that make the book that much better. All the characters are amazing, and funny, and interesting, and Rhys is not a Ken doll.

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  8. null@grrl.la says:

    Daemati are simply mind-reader types (Feyre and Rhys are both Daemati, for instance). And “the Morrigan” is a canonical name to refer to how she was referred to during the old war. It’s her most formal title, “Morrigan” being below that, “Mor” being the most casual.

    Of course, the book still isn’t great. Your reading comprehension could use some work though.


  9. Anonymous says:

    uh i agree with some of this but the reason that she says “the Morrigan” and not just “Morrigan” is because the morrigan is a mythological being in various mythologies, and although Morrigan in this book is the name of the character, she is also literally “The Morrigan,” the mythological being and truth-teller, which is referenced like 3-4 times in ACOMAF. Hope this is enlightening!


  10. Babyfish says:

    this is hillarious but imma still finish it lmaooo..idk i think people can enjoy things and people can not enjoy things and when someone is not enjoying something and with as much joy as you
    are not enjoying this i joy in that.


  11. Anonymous says:

    i literallly came here specifically bc i was trying to figure out wtf rhys was licking.. i also can place what time period their in but the books are still fun


  12. HD says:

    This is why these books were rebranded as adult. Kids don’t know the vulgar gesture he’s making is tongue out between fingers, ie. cunnilingus. You’re all welcome 🤦‍♀️


  13. Anonymous says:

    So first thing, mate has to be used that much for this series as it’s very unique to this book series and isn’t just some random word she threw in there- it’s important to the characters and world building and in a book with over 650 pages one word used 202 times is not that many. Second, armen isn’t written inconsistent so I’m not sure where you got that- she’s grumpy and can be cruel but is a good person underneath. Third Azriel and cassian are not flat- they each have their own personalities and depth going back to trauma and other things as it’s mentioned throughout so I don’t know how they can be seen as flat really, elain is boring I’ll give you that but in the time period she was raised to be a lady and she is traumatized and is presenting it in a different way, same with nesta who is hurt and just projects in her own way. Fourth the meeting is exciting it’s a big plot point, and yes it’s not perfectly written but it does make sense- I wouldn’t say Rhys is proud of feyre for what she did but understanding and supportive as it didn’t truly effect everything in the long term. And for the painting I don’t know many people who could find time to paint in training, preparing for a war, looking after a family, etc. but she can still enjoy it. Just because you can’t do something for a while doesn’t mean it’s not a hobby- and it’s mentioned as important to her character in other ways. Another thing daemati are a species of mind readers not bad guys. For “the Morrigan” part it’s her title. Not just a name, a title as she is based on a real life myth- the morrigan. I do get that the rep. Surrounding mor isn’t great but it isn’t the worse either. Another thing is feyre does not do a whole rant, she stops is the from hurting Lucien and during this is found by the hybern rulers, yes there is some long dialogue there but she hates ianthe and just found her basically forcing Lucien into sex- who can blame her for ranting a bit. Also about the whole battle thing-she does fight in them like when she defended the rainbow, or Adriata. But remember feyre no matter how much she has trained, is not a warrior. It’d be stupid to assume she can go straight on in a war with little experience, especially since she still is traumatized from her past fighting in a ful, on battle didn’t make sense for her character and it is explained quite well in the book, along with why she is tired. Also the whole male, female women thing- it’s because they aren’t human so she chose to call them something else. Like we wouldn’t call a cat a man cat, but a male cat. So the fae are male/females. I do slightly get the dislike of Rhys, but he is also generally a good character with depth as well.and some of the dialogue is written to be more formal, some is more casual it depends on the situation- just because you don’t speak like that doesn’t mean others don’t. Like the “see you at the meeting in twelve days” it. It made sense. Formal, and er is was probably Throwing it in Mors face like the ass he is. Anyways that’s probably not everything, but that’s my opinion, generally speaking on some of these things you maybe should reread as you didn’t seem to understand some of the basics of the book.


  14. JJ says:

    I enjoyed ACOTAR and ACOMAF despite all the fillers and dumb moments, but I’m almost halfway through ACOWAF and I couldn’t get past through it. The characters just keep talking and talking, too many info dumps. Not so much actions. The book (this book) just seems to become more terrible and dull as I flip through the pages. I have high expectations with the war coming, of course I’m expecting more adventures, interesting turn of events, but I no. This book is cringey and dull. Plus Rhysand suddenly became boring here. And I do agree about Tamlin! I thought it was just me. SJM could’ve done better with his character and the story. Not to mention a boring villain King of Hybern.


  15. Leila says:

    I read one SJM book. Can’t even remember which one, just that I didn’t hate it. So I started the second one in the series. And then I had this moment where I was like… wait a minute… How is this not the same book I just read? So repetitive, so sexist, and just…smut can’t save you from that.


  16. Kk says:

    I def do not hate this story to the extreme you do. I liked some of the characters such as cassian and occasionally rhys. I think it was a good book to get me back into reading but I would probably rate it a 4/10. I used to read constantly but haven’t really picked up a book for enjoyment since I was in school. But there were so many issues I had with the story. As you’ve already mentioned what is a vulgar gesture?? Why do they stick their tongues out as each other like they are in elementary school?? I can’t imagine these fantasy warriors sticking their tongue out as each other for a laugh. Why do they constantly pick “invisible lints” off themselves?? Mate was def overused and I hated it because that word alone is not romantic. I would have preferred if she had made up some name for the concept rather than using mate. Some of the character I hated (such as mor). And I hated the fact that no one dies. It’s like a constant cycle of resurrection when they all thought it was impossible so it just cheapened the story for me. Her world building was not good either. So like I said it was a good introduction to fantasy novels after being gone from the reading scene for 20 years so because of that I’ll likely always have a soft spot in my heart for it.


    • Kk says:

      I will likely never pick up another book by this author again though her writing is very basic. And she doesn’t describe anything well enough for me. I know she has other series but now that I’ve been casually introduced to fantasy I will be trying to find others and build worlds and characters better


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